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Elevator Core Reference Guide

Motor Brake Control Torque/Speed Method

Motor Brake Control - Torque Speed Method

The Elevator Core can use both torque and speed as a reference to release the brake so the motor brake will never release without enough torque. In addition this prevents the drive holding zero speed during brake release.

This method should be used when the Elevator Core needs to accelerate away from 0 speed as quickly as possible.

This method is only used during the brake release for the brake apply the same conditions as the time based method are used. More information on brake apply (stopping) can be found in the topic Motor Brake Control Applying the Brake.

How to set the Torque Speed Method to be used for the Brake Control

To enable the Torque Speed Brake method the table below lists the conditions that must be fulfilled.

Condition

Steps

Brake Release time Must be set to 0.0

Set P5-01 to 0.0

The Relay controlling the Motor Brake must be set to the Brake Control setting

If Motor Brake connected to Relay 1 - Set P1-30 to 15

If Motor Brake connected to Relay 2 - No Action Required

Either a Speed or Torque reference Must be set > 0.

Set P5-08 > 0 for Speed Reference

Set P5-09 > 0 for Torque Reference

Set P5-08 & P5-09 > 0 for Speed & Torque Reference

Note

If any of these conditions are not met then the drive will use the time based method to control the motor brake.

Torque Speed Method - Brake Release Conditions

There are three different conditions for the brake to release depending on the settings of P5-08 & P5-09 which are shown in the table below:

Parameters

Release Condition

Timing Diagram

Speed Only

P5-08 > 0

When P0-15 value is greater than the value set in P5-08 then the motor brake will release

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Torque Only

P5-09 > 0

When P0-28 value is greater than the value set in P5-09 then the motor brake will release

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Speed & Torque

P5-08 & P5-09 > 0

When both Conditions below are true the motor brake will release:

  • When P0-28 value is greater than the value set in P5-08 then the motor brake will release

  • When P0-15 value is greater than the value set in P5-09 then the motor brake will release

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Torque Speed Method - Setup Guidance

The torque speed method setup is application dependent based on the load and speeds required. This section gives general guidance for parameterisation and troubleshooting.

When using torque and speed as values to release the brake the best results should yield a travel where the load does not drop when the brake is released while also having a smooth acceleration profile with no bumps or jerks in the car.

The table below list common problems and solutions when using this method.

Problem

Cause

Solution

Brake does not release

  • The drive has not achieved the target values set in P5-08 or P5-09

As a starting point in Geared Induction systems use the slip speed of the motor as a target for the speed in P5-08.

Reduce the target speed in P5-08 to allow the brake to release before to much torque is built up.

If you are not using speed as a reference reduce the value in P5-09 so the drive can reach the required torque before entering torque or current limit.

  • Motor brake is not within the drives Relay specification

Check that the Drive Relay has not been damaged and is still operational

  • Relay 1 is not set to the Brake Control Function

If you are using Relay 1 to control the motor brake P1-30 MUST be set to 15: Brake Control

Drive trips Sp-Err during start

  • The drive has entered current/torque limit for more than 1 second

Reduce the values in P5-08 & P5-09 so the brake releases before the drive enters current or torque limit

Note

The real-time current & torque values can be monitored with P0-25 & P0-28 respectively

  • The drives speed has deviated from the intended speed for a time & value larger than the values in P6-11 & P6-12

Increase the values in P6-11 or P6-12 to allow for a larger window for the speed to deviate.

The travel of the elevator needs tuning for smoother operation. Follow the guide in this section for tuning and comfort optimisation.

Motor Sheave snaps forward when the brake released

  • The Acceleration Jerk is to short causing the sheave to snap forward when the brake is released resulting in a bump or thud in the car

As the torque demand for the brake to release in P5-09 increases the drive must have a longer starting jerk to compensate. Increase P9-01 to lengthen the starting jerk to smooth out the travel curve.

  • The speed loop gains are not correct for starting

Setup the starting speed loop gains by entering a value in the transition speed during acceleration parameter P9-25. This value should be after the oscillations at start have stopped and the travel curve is smooth.

Change the values in P9-23 & P9-24 to reduce oscillations in the travel curve at start.

Tip

When changing the speed loop gains in P9-23 & P9-24 start with the P-Gain in P9-23 and change the value in increments of 10% until you get the best results, there will be a point where the performance worsens when you change the value at that point stop and go back to the previous value. Then do the same for the I-Gain in P9-24 until the travel curve has been smoothed.

Rollback as the brake is released

  • If the torque is not sufficient to accelerate the load when the brake is released the load will drop causing rollback.

Increase the value in P5-08 to provided more torque at start when the brake is released. Increase in increments of 5% until the load can be accelerated without rollback.

Using the torque speed method additional protections are provided to prevent unintended car movement when the brake is released which are detailed in the table below.

Protection

Protection function

Parameters

Torque Timeout

If the load stalls and is unable to accelerate as the torque or current limits in either parameter P4-18/P4-19 or P4-03 have been reached or the brake does not release the drive will trip Sp-Err preventing the load from dropping

P4-18 & P4-19

Disable holding at 0 speed

When using the Torque Speed method the drive does not use brake release time (P5-01) or DC Injection time at start (P9-11) so the load is never held at zero while the brake is released.

As soon as the conditions to release the drive are met the motor starts to accelerate to the target speed rather than holding zero.

P5-01 & P9-11

Parameter Number

Parameter Name

Units

Default

Available Settings

Access

Change During Run

Scaling

Size (Bytes)

CAN Register

CAN Sub Index

Modbus Register

P5-08

Brake Release Speed

Hz / rpm / Linear

0.00 

0.00 ... 10.00Hz

RW

Y

1 = 0.01

2

21FCh

0

508

P5-09

Brake Release Torque

%

0.0%

0.0 ... 100.0%

RW

Y

1 = 0.1%

2

21FDh

0

509

Set this to the speed at which you want the Motor Brake to be released. Once P5-08 & P5-09 values have been met the brake will be released.

This parameter is only active if P5-01 is set to 0 & both P5-08 & P5-09 have a value > 0.

Set this to the torque value at which you want the Motor Brake to be released. Once P5-08 & P5-09 values have been met the brake will be released.

This parameter is only active if P5-01 is set to 0 & both P5-08 & P5-09 have a value > 0.